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Dear Robert,

I have the same problem. Per what you said, the earthly branch for hour pillar would always be zi(rat), but what about the heavenly stem.




On 9/18/99 11:58:34 AM, Robert Lee wrote:
>Dear Desmond,
>
>Please read below:-
>
>You see the Traditional
>Chinese time is divided int 12
>units as 12 as follows:-
>
>1 am - 2.59 am : chou
>3 am - 4.59 am : yin
>5 am - 6.59 am : mao
>7 am - 8.59 am : chen
>9 am - 10.59 am : si
>11 am - 12.59 pm : wu
>1 pm - 2.59 pm : wei
>3 pm - 4.59 pm : shen
>5 pm - 6.59 pm : you
>7 pm - 8.59 pm : shu
>9 pm - 10.59 pm : hai
>11 pm - 12.59 am : zi
>
>Modified version of the
>Traditional Time:-
>
>1 am - 2.59 am : chou
>3 am - 4.59 am : yin
>5 am - 6.59 am : mao
>7 am - 8.59 am : chen
>9 am - 10.59 am : si
>11 am - 12.59 pm : wu
>1 pm - 2.59 pm : wei
>3 pm - 4.59 pm : shen
>5 pm - 6.59 pm : you
>7 pm - 8.59 pm : shu
>9 pm - 10.59 pm : hai
>11 pm - 11.59 am : late zi
>12 am - 12.59 am : early zi
>
>(Basically not necessary)
>
>11 pm to 12.59 am is already
>representing the following
>times:-
>5 Feb 11 pm to 5 Feb 11.59 pm
>6 Feb 12 am to 6 Feb 12.59 am
>
>Basically, the timings are
>there so that we can convert
>the time into chinese time
>represented by Zi, Chou, Yin,
>etc.
>
>Which is actually to make it
>simple Zi hour. That is all.
>
>This means that for the
>Chinese hour of 11 pm - 12.59
>am, it will represent the
>dates who are born in 5 Feb 11
>pm to 6 Feb 12.59 am, 4 Feb 11
>pm to 5 Feb 12.59 am, or even
>6 Feb 11 pm to 7 Feb 12.59 am.
>
>There is no need to modify any
>timing. As your Solar date
>would have converted it 6 Feb
>12.59 am. Thus, your solar day
>is 6th day and not 5th day.
>
>If you friend was born in 5
>Feb 12:05 am, then he is
>considered 5 Feb Zi hour
>
>Since is is born in 6 Feb
>12:05 am, then he is
>considered 6 Feb Zi hour.
>
>So that is why I do not see
>the explicit need for the
>modified dates or to worry
>about this, as your Solar
>dates have converted to the 6
>day already.
>
>That, is why so long as you
>enter your Solar date, the
>conversion will convert you to
>the proper representation of
>the Chinese Lunar date.
>
>I think you are confusing
>yourself unnecessarily, since
>he is born on 6 Mar 00:05:-
>
>Just choose 6 as the day, Mar
>as the month, the year he is
>born, and the timing 11 pm to
>12.59 pm since it is 12:05 pm
>(00:05 pm).
>
>The Solar date will have
>already treat it as 6 Mar and
>not 5 Mar.
>
>Do not need to make any
>unnecessary modification to
>the Solar date, as it will be
>converted into the Chinese
>date according to your Solar
>Date.
>
>Hope that clears your doubt.
>
>Warmest Regards
>Robert Lee
>
>On 9/17/99 3:09:24 PM, Desmond Tan
>wrote:
>>Thank you for your prompt
>>reply.
>>
>>I think that the time of birth
>>is quite critical.
>>
>>Using similar details as
>>above, if I ignore the time of
>>birth and consider my friend's
>>birth date to be 6 Feb, his
>>main element is water
>>(according to your system),
>>whereas if I use 5 Feb, his
>>main element is metal.
>>
>>I just want to be accurate
>>before I utilise the credit
>>for the report management
>>system.
>>
>>Therefore, I would consider my
>>friend's birth date: 6 Feb,
>>00:05 hours (5 minutes after
>>midnight) to be within the
>>span of 5 Feb, 11 pm - 12.59
>>am.
>>
>>Would appreciate your
>>comments.
>>
>>Thank you/best regards...
>>Desmond
>>
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